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Jacob of Sarug
Who made the East- Aramean Nestorians known as "Assyrians"?
SUA/WCA and allowing terrorism
Aramean history, history, culture and language, a six partite interview
"Assyrian" terrorism and division within the Aramean nation
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23-3-2015: "Assyrian" veneration of Samiramis, the whore of Babylon
21-2-2014: The origin of “Assyrian” fanaticism, their blindness, veneration of occult powers
19-12-2008: Pseudo-Assyrians, Pseudo-Chaldaeans, and the Cultural – National Needs of the Aramaean Nation
18-12-2008: Syriacs, "Assyrians" and "Chaldaeans" are all Aramaeans
26-9-2008: Terrorist ‘Kurds’ – Pawns of Merovingian Freemasonry Determined to Eliminate the Aramaeans
25-9-2008: Political Hypocrisy and Historical Forgery by Pseudo-Assyrians and Kurdish Terrorists
25-9-2008: Unprecedented Forgery of Ancient Mesopotamian History Expected to Trigger Chaos
23-9-2008: Pseudo-‘Assyrians’ and ‘Kurdish’ Terrorists: Liars Fostering Chaos and Genocide
22-9-2008: Anti-Christian Unholy Alliance: the Forged "Assyrian" Pseudo-Nation and the PKK Terrorists
21-9-2008: Looming End of Oriental Christianity: Unholy Alliance of ‘Kurdish’ Terrorists with Pseudo-Assyrians
19-9-2008: The Ongoing Aramaean Genocide, the Fabricated Pseudo-Assyrian Nation, and "Kurdish" (PKK) Terrorists
17-9-2008: Persecuted Aramaeans, a Pseudo-Nation of 'Assyrians,' Kurdish Terrorists, and the Anti-Chris
16-9-2008: The primitive, superseded, yet very dangerous ADO ideology unmasked: Jesus Christ the Assyrian?
17-7-2008: "Assyrian" terrorism: The bitter fruits of the spiritual colonial intervention: A monstrous covenant between the PKK and the organization of the apostate Arameans who identify themselves as “Assyrians”, namely: The Assyrian Democratic Organisation
8-10-2005: A disastrous decision of SUA- where are standards and values?
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Aramean people: Aramean people (not to be confused with ‘Armenians’) speak Aramaic, the language spoken by Abraham, Moses and Jesus. They are the indigenous people of what was called in ancient times Aram- Nahrin, in our days it is called ‘Mesopotamia’. Some Arameans today identify themselves with “Assyrians”, because of the spiritual colonial hate generating activities of the Western missionaries and diplomats in the Middle-East in 16th and 19th centuries. Other Arameans became known as “Chaldeans”. However all of them are Arameans.In Turkey, the Arameans are called: Süryani. In Arabic they are called Al- Suryan.
Sabri Atman and Hezbollah- Aram
Sabri Atman: A man of standards and values or... an manipulator and abuser of the Aramean Physical Genocide to promote the immoral western criminal spiritual colonial and slavery product "Assyrians"?
A powerful instrument in the hands of his colonial Western creators and masters to torment and dishonor the Aramean Nation.
Comment in advance:
The Aramean people since centuries have became a plaything in the hands of sinister forces of darkness which, century after century, incite the people against one another, have divided and brainwashed them to forget their rich and glorious culture or have been put in such a state of mental confusion and hopelessness, that they clamp themselves to everything which is provided by outsiders, without testing the value of what is put on the (serving) tray.
It was under this lugubrious situation caused by the renegade part of the Western Christianity that is preaching a kind of 'jesus' that has nothing to do with Jesus Christ of the Bible, Who is nobody but the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Thanks to the horrible practices of the "jesus" of the West, the Arameans were massacred, their women raped, their sons killed, their fields, vineyards, farmlands were appropriated by strangers, their native country they inhabited for thousands of years was assumed by foreign peoples who now terrorize and subject them. A example of this is the situation in Iraq. Another example is the Aramean monastery Mor Gabriel in Turkey.
It was due to the unholy practices of the renegade colonial/ spiritual Western powers that fanaticism, nationalism and false names were brought to the Arameans which ultimately led to their collapse. The Western spiritual and political powers targeted the defenceless and often simple/ illiterate Arameans of the Middle East, thereby dividing and brainwashing them by means of bribery, blackmail, oppression and using Islam from all sides with the result: their downfall in the Middle East was effectuated.
When in 1553 the Roman Catholic missionaries, along with France brainwashed a part of the East Aramean Nestorians to separate them from their mother church and henceforth to call themselves "Chaldeans", the competing England could not stay behind.
For this reason, the same game of bribery, blackmail and brainwashing was repeated in the 19th century, now carried out by England with the Anglican Mission. The remaining part of the East Aramean Nestorians, who refused to follow Rome, were brainwashed to call themselves henceforth "Assyrians". And today are these apostate Aramean who call themselves "Assyrians" who provoke and terrorize the Aramean people by all means possible.
These apostate Arameans dear reader, get support from their Western colonail masters and spiritual fathers to commit genocidal practices against our people, either through media or through conferences in the European Parliament, or by other means. In the Netherlands, for example, these perpetrators of spiritual genocide have access to the political parties, media and other institutions to continue the terror against our people. Some ardent lovers of "Assyrianism" within the Evangelical Broadcasting Channel have been for many years engaged in a genocidal terror and torment against our people using the spiritual product of their forefathers.
Parallel to the implementation and diffusion of the abovementioned false identities on academic and cultural level, the Roman Catholic church has exerted every effort to utterly divide the Eastern Orthodox Christianity and to implement hatred . To achieve this, no means was shunned, including the use of the powers of the Middle East to get the Aramean and Orthodox Christians to their knees. This is how the Jesus of the West works. For example, the creation of the West-Aramean Syrian Catholic Church was achieved by a unholy alliance of political and Spiritual powers. Regarding this alliance, Sebastien De Courtois tells us: ,, The first [Syrian] Catholic Patriarch had been consecrated in Aleppo in 1662 with French help through the mediation of Ambassador Francois Picquet (page 33)…. .. which was encouraged by French diplomats present in Aleppo at that time. The diplomats favored the separation in the hope of one day uniting the Eastern Churches with that of Rome (XiX).. The Catholic mission activities were strongly supported by French Ministry of Foreign Affairs policy, which had been reinforced in the region by creation in 1856 of a vice-consulate in Diyarbekir at the request of the Vatican (page. 36)
See here dear reader, how the powerful ,,jesus of the West” have amalgamated the spiritual and secular powers to weaken the Aramean people of Aram-Nahrin under the cover of ,,unity”. This kind of unholy ,,evangelism” has been misused by ,,Jesus of the West” to plant his ideology of ,,dividing and ruling” in the Middle-East resulting in terrible consequences for the Aramean nation.
A person who still seems to continue with the war of the Catholic church is professor Herman Teule of the Catholic University of Nijmegen with his ridiculous usage of the terms like "Monophysite", a fake term invented by the apostate Western Christianity, to torment and taunt the Eastern Orthodox and the Syrian Orthodox Church (These Churches always have recognized the two natures of Christ, namely: Perfect God and Perfect Man)
The occult and apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians", do not hesitate to use all means possible to spread this lie-name and falsify the history of our people. Yes, they even went for the path of terrorism to advertise this criminal lie-name. More about this: http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Monstrous_Alliance_PKK_ADO_24_4_1993.htm http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/The_Primitive_dangerous_ADO_ideology_16_9_2008.htm http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Sweden_Aramean_Genocide_5_1_2008.htm http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Aramean_Fuat_Deniz_Slaughtered_By_Cousin_13_2_2008.htm
A big asset in the hands of their Western masters to dishonour and torment the Aramean nation is Mr. Sabri Atman. As we will show, Atman uses the Aramean physical genocide with all possible means to commit a spiritual genocide by glorifying the false name "Assyrians". In this genocidal war against our people, Atman gets support from his Western masters and spiritual creators.
Before we proceed, we first have to answer this questions, namely: What is genocide?
Genocide can be categorized as: Physical and Spiritual genocide. Physical genocide means extermination by killing a nation. Mr. Atman presents himself as a specialist on the physical genocide, while committing spiritual genocide.
Spiritual genocide is implementation of division and hatred, inciting family against family, daughter against mother, son against father, village against village, weakening of a nation, extermination of their cultural heritage by diffusion of fake identities "Chaldeans" and "Assyrians", introduction of fanatical nationalism based on fake identities, division of spiritual institutions, bribery, blackmail and brainwashing of their leaders to weaken them, distortion of their history and identity ..etc... etc...
The Turks and Kurds have committed physical genocide, while the spiritual genocide was committed by the Western diplomats and missionaries (here, here, here). And this spiritual genocide is today being continued undiminished and with all possible efforts by Mr. Atman, by misusing the Aramean physical genocide, to advertise the criminal Western invention and fake name "Assyrians" in reference to our people, exactly as his Western masters and creators had in mind to do so.
So, the question is then of course: What is the reason Mr. Atman so eager to talk about genocide? What is the agenda behind this genocide issue? And what does Mr. Atman want to achieve with this? Is the goal really recognizing the Aramean genocide committed by the Turks and Kurds? If so, why then he is calling it "Assyrian" genocide? One thing is very obvious and that is: Mr. Atman is taking every opportunity and is utterly exploiting every possibility to advertise the immoral, objectionable and already besmirched with blood and terrorism (here, here) Western spiritual colonial product "Assyrians" - a product invented by the Western masters of Mr. Atman to culturally exterminate the Aramean nation. But of course Mr. Atman is using various methods and tricks to carefully camouflage and hide his real intentions and fool the poor and unsuspecting people. Later on, this will be explained thoroughly.
In the presence of elderly people and on television, Mr. Atman very smartly speaks of of "Syrian Genocide" (= Suryoye Seyfo). However, when he is in contact with foreigners, for example members of the European Parliament, he tries by all means possible to present the Aramean nation with the colonial, genocidal fake name "Assyrians".
As a Human Rights Organisation we consider this as a fraud, manipulation, deception and spiritual genocide. Basically, this is nothing but a big spit and the face of our people and a evidence of disrespect. Do not be misled dear reader, when Mr. Atman is using the word "Syrian", he automatically mean "Assyrian", because we think Atman is following the criminal ideology of the terrorist organisation ADO which is following the Lost-A trick (Also this will be explained)
In addition, Mr. Sabri Atman is eager to present himself as a "expert" and is doing his best everywhere to talk about genocide. He comes with pleasure to talk about genocide and the great injustice done to the Aramean people which he falsely is calling "Assyrian" people or "Syrian" people in order to fool the nation.
What many blinds and fools are not aware of is that Mr. Atman, likewise many others, is doing nothing but misusing the Aramean physical genocide to spread and advertise the Western spiritual colonial slavery product "Assyrians". And with that Mr. Atman is committing spiritual /cultural genocide against the Aramean nation which is much worse than the physical genocide.
Please be informed of the following: At the moment that people like Sabri Atman became aware that their real intentions are being unmasked, they will start with a terrible campaign to ridicule you, to attack you and to come up with gamut of absurd accusations, like for example "you work for the Turks", "you are Hizb-Allah", "you are fundamentalist", "you are intolerant". etc.. etc..
This is typical the trademark of the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians" to put others in bad light. Woe betide you, if you dare to unmask the involvement of the terrorist "Assyrians" with terrorism. Because they will start their hate-machine and ridicule you like "you are dividing our people", "you work for the enemy", "you hate Assyrians", "you should not judge people", etc.. etc..
We will present our analysis as follows:
1. Sabri Atman and the Aramean youth in Germany- Aram Hezbollah- Binladen 2. Sabri Atman in Belgium on 9-2-2007. On the quarrel in Belgium with bishop Hazael Somi: Interview on 9-3-2007 and on 11-3-2007. 3. Sabri Atman and Mor Quraqos church in Enschede. 4. Interview Sabri Atman on SuryoyoSat: 10-4-2008 5. The biggest victims of Atman 6. Appeal to Sabri Atman 7. General message for the "Assyrian" terrorists.
1. Sabri Atman and the Aramean youth in Germany- Aram Hezbollah- Binladen
In 2006 Sabri Atman gave a talk in Giessen in Germany on Genocide. During this talk the Aramean youth confronted Mr. Atman with his behavior to "Assyrianize" the Aramean nation.
After this discussion in Germany, the Aramean youth started to publish statements on the Suryoyo Online Forum in which they accused Mr. Atman of being a wolf in sheep's clothing. Sabri Atman became furious and started, in consultation with the apostate Aramean who call themselves "Assyrians", a hate campaign against the Suryoyo Online and the webmaster, Mr. Gabriel Rabo. This repugnant campaign was not only aimed at Mr. Rabo and Suryoyo Online, but also utterly criminalized the Aramean nation. On various forums of the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians", extremely offensive and hateful contributions, under fake names, were published in which Mr. Rabo was depicted as “spy for the Turks”, “Urenke Gobel” and much more of such-like objectionable, hateful and extremely dirty allegations; exactly in agreement with the heinous “Assyrianists” ideology. This campaign was conducted amongst others on the forums of the “Assyrian” Association Betnahrin in Germany, where the Assyrian terrorism took root, and the Dutch ADO association “Assyrische Mesopotamische Verenging Enschede”.
The apostate Aramean who call themselves "Assyrians" are so fanatical and obsessed by the product of their Western fake Christian masters that they had no problem to coin a covenant with the PKK with the main goal to promote this immoral colonial lie-name “Assyrians” and to exterminate the Aramean culture. Really, from such people you may expect everything; the goal seems to justify the means; even so much so to sacrifice boys and girls.
1.1. The deep and hidden hatred of Sabri Atman towards the Aramean people
The first hate generating letter of Sabri Atman to Gabriel Rabo of Suryoyo Online (26-6-2006) http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Letter_Sabri_Atman_To_Suryoyo_Online_26_6_2006.htm
As previously mentioned Sabri Atman and his friends, including in Germany and elsewhere, started a repugnant, tasteless and objectionable hate campaign not only against the person of Mr. Gabriel Rabo in particular, but also against the Aramean nation in general. This awfully hatred was organised amongst others in the "Assyrische Mesopotamien Verein in Augusburg" and also the "Assyrische Mesopotamische ADO Verenging" contributed to this hateful propaganda.
What you should know, dear reader, is that it was in de association "Bethnahrin in Augusburg in Germany", that the Assyrian terrorism took shape, for it was in this very association that in 1993 a delegation of ADO was composed under leadership of Numan Ugur, a Christian and the second man of PKK, to seal an monstrous covenant with the leader of PKK Mr. Ocalan in Syria. More about the "Assyrian" terrorism, their lies, manipulations, fraud and distortions, please read the following analysis: http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Monstrous_Alliance_PKK_ADO_24_4_1993.htm http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/The_Primitive_dangerous_ADO_ideology_16_9_2008.htm
The hate campaign most probably was organised in consultation with Sabri Atman from this and other "Assyrian" associations. It was amongst others on the website of this associations where hideous and nasty statements, under fake names, were spread on the Webmaster of Suryoyo Online. It was also on the website of this association that a hideous and a criminal hate campaign was started against the person of Professor. Dr. Muhammad Shamsaddin Megalommatis.
On 26-6-2006 Sabri Atman sent the first letter to the Webmaster of Suryoyo Online and was spread on the website of the "Assyrische Verein" in Augusburg in Germany and is still on their website (see the link above).
We translated the letter into English with the left column the original German text and the right column the translated English Text. Below we will drop few comments to the letter of Mr. Sabri Atman in which he not only attacks Mr. Gabriel Rabo but also ridicules the Aramean nation. And with that indeed Mr. Atman seems to be pleasing his Western colonial masters.
.......Do not you understand that with this kind of information policy, you only promote hostility between us?.......
Exactly Mr. Atman and same question can also be asked to you. Your propaganda for many years to advertise the unholy western spiritual colonial product "Assyrian", does certainly not contribute to the unity within our nation. On the contrary, the awful and criminal ideology has become the epicenter of terrorism, fraud, hatred, lies, distortions, treachery and spiritual cultural extermination of our nation.
........The difference between people who are constantly busy, to insult their people and spread untruth about them, are to my opinion in agreement with the philosophy which is very precisely being adhered by Taliban respectively Hisbollah......
With this quote Mr. Atman seems precisely to describe himself and his friends. Otherwise, why would be wrong and a insult to unmask and denounce the disgusting criminal colonial product "Assyrians"? How about the horrible raping of the girls and killings of the boys in northern Iraq for the sake of the objectionable "Assyrian" ideology? Families were torn up, people were incited against each other, hatred and division has been created. All this is just normal, nothing to say about it? And all this, just remove it from the table and forget about it by demonizing people who condemn these practises and labelling them as "Taliban" and "Hisbollah?" And is unmasking and unambiguous denouncing of this hideous crimes to be labeled as "to insult their people and spread untruth about them"?
......Do not they have anything else to do than keeping themselves with the Assyrians and constantly discrediting them?
Again the same question can be asked to you and your hateful friends concerning your horrendous contempt towards the Aramean nation, exactly in the line of your Western masters, the colonial criminals. With your zealous efforts, you seem to succeed in their colonial urge of extermination. Below we will explain what we mean.
One of the organisations which more than thirty years have been working with the "Assyrian" organisations is the Geselshaft Fur Bedrohte Volker in Germany. Regarding this cooperation, they say, " Today we consider it as absurd that the Assyrian Organizations with their nationalism exert the major part of their struggle against the majority of their “Aramean” people in Germany and the rest of Europe and this struggle comprises the major part of their activities"
Well then Mr. Atman, before attacking the Aramean organizations, please first learn much better yourself. Enjoy the link: http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Threatened_People_Wake_UP_25_10_2007.htm
..........Until now, I have certainly met very decent and respectable persons who present themselves as "Arameans". .......
Very interesting indeed! We don't know who these people are, as far as they consider themselves "Arameans", and sit down together with you on the table, we believe we are dealing here with people who probably have the following characteristics: 1. Whether they are imbeciles and are unaware of your crusades by order of your western colonial masters against the Aramean nation, this will be later explained why. 2. Whether we are dealing here with people who cannot think normal, 3. And last we believe we are dealing with extremely low moral bandits whom you describe as ".......very decent and respectable persons ......."
........These include, in any case neither you nor a few other people who are constantly insulting and make themselves partner in slanderous discussions concerning Assyrianthinking people......
Unmasking terrorism, fraud, history distortion and denouncing raping of girls and killing of boys, you may indeed qualify as ".. insulting and slanderous discussions.....", however with that we believe Mr. Atman, it says something about your own standards and values.
According to our analysis and insights, it is a act of crime to cheat your people, your own flesh and blood and go after a mythical "Assyrian" ideology which is not yours. It is something which has been implanted and taught by others. "Assyrian thinking" people? It is a joke, they do not exist. We are dealing here with nothing but the Western colonial immoral perversity which they brought to the Middle-East and brainwashed a part of our nation. You just continue this spiritual colonialism!
On the other hand, it is very smart of Mr. Atman to reduce this issue of the Western colonial immorality in the Middle-East to "views", "beliefs" and "opinions". Perhaps that is why his Western masters gave him access to various buildings and support him.
.........The Taliban and Hezbollah have assumed Mohammed as a weapon and terrorize the whole world.......
And you have assumed the "Assyrian" ideology, invented by your Western colonial masters (here, here), and are using it against your own people, the Aramean people whom you are taunting and dishonouring under supervision of your masters and spiritual creators.
In addition to this, you seem very well to be familiar with Hisbollah and Taliban. How is this possible? Are you perhaps in love with those ideologies with which you try to discredit others?
...................Do not you feel that your approach have a lot in common with the two terror groups?...............
The same question again can be asked to you. It were the "Assyrian" terrorists (here, here) who made a covenant with the PKK and most probably you were aware of that. The "Assyrian" terrorists have recruited boys and killed them in northern Iraq and raped girls who were recruited. All this can be justified to advertise the criminal immoral "Assyrian" ideology? And everyone who says something about it and unambiguous condemns it and warns people, is according to you "Taliban" and "Hisbollah", because with that he is "insulting" the "Assyrians"? So, please go with your questions to the "Assyrian" terrorists. We have nothing to do with these ideologies.
..........Do not you use Jesus as a weapon to promote backwardness and hostility within your own people?.......
Very interesting indeed. Is Jesus equal, in the perception to Mr. Atman, to "backwardness" and "hostility"? Probably the most fanatical Jesus-haters would not dare to state such a bold statement. Probably even "Taliban" and "Hisbolloh" would not dare to speak in this way about Jesus.
Therefore, what does our Lord Jesus Christ has to do with this Mr. Atman? Why do you involve Jesus? Do you want to say that the teaching of Jesus is backward as the teaching of Taliban and Hisbollah? How can you use Jesus to promote "backwardness" and "hostility?"
Or do we have to believe that your inner hatred towards the Aramean people is becoming so deep and abominable that you are doing everything to crack them down, including besmirching the name of our Lord? Could this perhaps be a indication for your deep hatred towards our Lord? Has Christ Jesus became such an obstacle in your life?
Atman efendi, nevertheless we will bring to your attention some statements of our Lord Jesus Christ to try to describe your mentality.
Jesus says in Mattew 12:30, "Anyone who is not for me is really against me; anyone who does not help me gather is really scattering"
If Jesus would be now on earth and in your presence would have made this statement, most probably you would than have cracked Him down and portrayed him as "fanatic", "extremist", "undemocratic", "having no respect for others", "creating division", "intolerant", "who is this guy to say such hateful statements?", "Hisbollah" and "Taliban". Below , Mr. Atman, we are going to confront you with more statements of our Lord Jesus. In Revelation 22:11 Jesus says, "Whoever is evil must go on doing evil, and whoever is filthy must go on being filthy; whoever is good must go on doing good, and whoever is holy must go on being holy."
Also this statement of Jesus probably would be immediately denounced by you in terms like, "Who is this guy who says something like this?", "All people are brothers, why making such extreme statements?", "We all are equal, why does this fanatic tries to drive to extreme by dividing them in good and evil?" etc.. etc..
The fact that Mr. Atman links Jesus to "backwardness" and "hatred", which is obviously tantamount to that, we believe this could be a indication of his deep, hidden aversion of Jesus Christ of the Bible. One thing you can be 100% sure about it and that is this: If our people indeed were following Christ Jesus, there would be worldwide no place for Mr. Atman within our nation. Because the Bible says, "And Christ himself is the means by which our sins are forgiven, and not our sins only, but also the sins of everyone. If we obey God's commands, then we are sure that we know him. If someone says that he knows him, but does not obey his commands, such a person is a liar and there is no truth in him. But whoever obeys his word is the one whose love for God has really been made perfect. This is how we can be sure that we are in union with God: whoever says that he remains in union with God should live just as Jesus Christ did" (1 John 2:2-6)
The fact that you and your friends get access to some of our churches and monasteries, is a strong indication to us that we are dealing here with a people who is rotten to their core and has became utterly immoral that they have rejected totally Jesus Christ and with that they have prepared themselves for a horrifying judgment of the Lord God (Oh no Mr. Atman, spare your efforts and tell your friends: We are not working for the Turks or whomever, but we are slaves of Christ Jesus of the Bible. And probably that is one of the reasons why our organization is being demonized by the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians")
....................Why do not these people change the name of their movement in Hisboll - Aram?
What is going on in your spirit to link the Arameans, who denounce "Assyrainism", to Hisbollah? Has your hatred for the Arameans become so huge? We are going to explain to you in detail why we do not change the name of our organizations in Hisboll-Aram. Contrary to the criminal and wicked colonial spiritual product "Assyrians" - the product of the Western immorality and perversity in the Middle-East - which you advertise and defend with all possible means, we, the Aramean organizations have no experience with:
- Terrorism - Recruitment of boys and girls for the PKK to fight in northern Iraq. - Raping girls and killing boys - Division within families, including inciting men and women against one another, children against their parents, family against family etc.. etc.. - Spreading of lies, manipulations, distortions and history falsifications etc.. etc..
We have nothing to do with all this filthiness, all this literally have been fulfilled in the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians" and got involved with terrorism. The fact that you are using the term "Taliban" and "Hisbollah" to ridicule the Aramean nation forms a strong indication to us that most probably you are practicing this horrible and objectionable ideologies which you try to project on others. In addition, we again wish to refresh your memory that it was in the "Assyrische" Verein in Augusburg, from which you probably organized your propaganda, where the "Assyrian" terrorism took root. However, this probably does not bother you.
Well then, could it be possible that in this kind of "Assyrian" associations the ideology of "Hisbollah" and "Taliban" is being practiced and taught? And could that be perhaps the reason why they have been involved with terrorism? And does this explain for a important part the lies, the manipulations, recruitment and other objectionable and unholy matters where the Western spiritual colonial lie-product "Assyrians" decorate themselves with?
And forgive us Mr. Atman, however could it be that in your subconscious you recognize something of yourself in these ideologies which you try to project on the Aramean organizations to besmirch them?
1.2. Gabriel Rabo Answers Sabri Atman. http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Answer_Gabriel_Rabo_Letter_Sabri_Atman_26_6_2006.htm
After Mr. Rabo received the offensive letter of Sabri Atman, he responded to the letter of Atman.
In his answer to Atman we read amongst others:
You have because of your attitude and efforts in spreading publicly the false name "Assyrian" for the Aramean people - made yourself in our society unpopular. With this propaganda and the manipulation of our history, you stimulate hostility and hatred among the Arameans (Suryoye). I must, unfortunately, assess in your letter that you compare us Arameans with Taliban and Hezbollah - with terrorist organizations - and describe some of us as disrespectful. You claim that we use Jesus as a weapon to promote backwardness and hostility within our nation. You urge the Arameans, with your question, to change the name of their "Movement" in Hisboll- Aram" with a reference to Hisbollah, although this is undeserved and totally absurd.
The Answer of Mr. Rabo to Atman speaks for itself. Please read the complete letter.
As we said at the beginning, when the real face of the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians" of which some of them even got involved with the terrorism, being unmasked, they start a unimaginable hate campaign. On the forum of the "Assyrische" Verein in Augsburg in Germany, most probably in close consultation with Sabri Atman, a horrible hateful statements, under secret names, were published on the person of Mr. Rabo. Not only in Germany but also on the Forum of the Mesopotamische Association in Holland, which is also a ADO association, the hateful propaganda was conducted against the person of Mr. Rabo.
Mr. Rabo was depicted by the "Assyrian" terrorists as "Urenke Goebels", "Working for the Turks", etc.. etc.., typical trademark of the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians" to crack down everyone who do not want to become their doormat.
When Mr. Atman received the response to his letter, on one side he became furious, on the other side he tried to create the impression as if he did not want to bring the Aramean organisations in relation with Taliban and Hezbollah. However, he himself unmasked his real face, so whatever he tries to do, it will not hide his real intentions.
Few comments on the letter of Atman. http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Letter_Sabri_Atman_Suryoyo_Online_13_7_2007.htm
.....................Also, you have surely took note of his answer in which every sentence reflects violation of the rules.
No Mr. Atman, your real face and behaviour towards the Aramean people and organisations has been unmasked and denounced in the letter of Mr. Rabo. This is something quite different, isn't it?
........One should know this: the answer I received from him was far from what decent and respectable people would write.
Very interesting! Look here who is talking about "respect" and "decentness". What should Mr. Rabo have had written in his letter to be qualified by you as "decent" and "respectful"? To approve the killing of the recruited boys and raping of girls in northern Iraq for the sake of the criminal immoral Western colonial "Assyrian" ideology? That it is okay to approve the immoral colonial product of your Western masters and to denounce the Aramean heritage of our people? When people reject and denounce the Western immorality and their inner urge to exterminate other nations, are they "indecent" and "improper"?
..........Because the answer I received was from the beginning to the end based on untruths and allegations............
Please let the independent reader decide who is spreading lies, hatred and demonism and who is working in all purity for the Aramean nation.
........Secondly, instead of apologizing, he writes the following: "You have, because of your attitude and efforts by spreading publicly the false name" Assyrian " for the Aramean people - made yourself in our society unpopular. Therefore you need to accept criticism. "
Exactly Mr. Atman and you are busy with this propaganda for many years. We know very well that you are not interested in Genocide, oh no, what is for you in stake is to spread the criminal colonial spiritual product "Assyrians" of your Western masters and that is exactly the reason they help and give you access to various places in order to advertise this unholy immoral invention.
.........I must conclude that decent people, who have sense of responsibility, dot not act in this way......
What should "decent" people do according to Mr. Atman? To approve "Assyrian" terrorism? Is this what he means by "decent" people?
Under the caption " Jihad - The ideology of the Taliban" Mr. Atman is making some strange statement, to say the least.
....... I must make it clear that I, in no way have equated the Aramaean organizations or even those who describe themselves as Arameans, with Taliban or Hezbollah.........
Too late, Mr. Atman clearly showed his hateful face towards the Aramean nation and organizations.
..............On the contrary: I have many esteemed friends, who call themselves Arameans, I know Aramean organizations who do good work.......
Those who identify themselves as "Arameans" and are good friends of Mr. Atman, we believe they have the following characteristics:
1. Whether they are very stupid and have a level of cleverness comparable to chimpanzee and therefore are not aware of anything, 2. Whether, they do not care about standards and values, 3. They are so lukewarm that they do not care about their Aramean identity. 4. No one, really no one, whether a private person or a organization who do care about their Aramean heritage will accept your attempts of cultural distortion. Out of the question.
Atman explains Jihad- ideology.
........Do not certain persons with this mentality fill several websites with jihad-like witch hunt and slander against Assyrians?
Let we now propose the following Mr. Atman. Please let the reader read the following documents in detail:
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Monstrous_Alliance_PKK_ADO_24_4_1993.htm http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Article_Zaman_16_11_2006.htm http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/The_Primitive_dangerous_ADO_ideology_16_9_2008.htm http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Assyria_Syria_John_Joseph_5_7_2008.htm
Is this terrorism, fraud, lies, manipulations or is this the Jihad-ideology your are talking about? Let the reader decide!
Is it not shameful that such views are there to read? Is there too much distinction between your inflammatory writings and calls to Jihad of Taliban? Do you still live in the Middle Ages? Is the university of Gottingen as a institution of science and education, that you are using it for your website to facilitate the division of our people, riots and misguiding of the youth?
Exactly Mr. Atman! With all these remarks and questions you should go to the "Assyrian" terrorist organizations who made a covenant with the PKK and scarified boys and girls for the sake of the criminal "Assyrian" ideology. Mr. Ocalan himself says, " We shall change history". And do not you in a deeper sense follow the script laid down by the two terrorist organizations to "Assyrianize" the Aramean people? In other words, the Arameans have nothing to do with your remarks because they keep terrorism on a far distance, please address all these remarks to those who glorify the objectionable Western spiritual colonial invention "Assyrians" and made a covenant with the PKK.
Atman explains Taliban mentality.
As is known, the Taliban were enemies of people who just thought differently than they themselves Worse: They did not allow the people with different view the right to life. They forced (onto others) their fanatical faith and their world views Consequently, there is but only one truth for them and even on these, they had the monopoly They did not hesitate to declare regularly Jihad against people of other faiths and living ideas Their greatest weapon was the faith and religious feelings of the people They do not hesitate to abuse this religiousness That is what we mean the Taliban mentality
Well then, Mr. Atman, you love to talk in detail about Taliban and Jihad ideology in such a way that you give us the feeling as if you are one of them and daily do practise this ideology.
This ideology is unknown to the Arameans, therefore they keep far away from terrorism. For this reason, you are at the wrong address with your explanation. We suggest you, as a expert on Taliban, Hisbollah and Jihad, in the first place to educate yourselves to stop with your spiritual crusade to "Assyrianize" the Aramean nation, and secondly you should go with your remarks to those who keep themselves busy with terrorism and recruitment, namely the terrorist "Assyrians" who made a covenant with the PKK. We have nothing to do with this ideology as explained by you in detail. Perhaps you can use your "expertise" to advice the Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan how adequately to deal with this ideologies.
......Despite the self-designation such as: Arameans, Chaldeans, Syrians, Suroye, Suryoye, Assyrians etc.., all of them concern people from our community. We will work for the unity of our people.....
Well, well, well, very smart of Mr. Atman how he tries to cover the crimes of his Western spiritual creators. All these terms in reference to our people are needless, they all came into being because of the criminal colonial activities of your Western masters among our nation. All of them are Arameans and nothing else. This has nothing to do with "tolerance" or "different views", but has to do with the denouncement of the activities of the criminal "jesus" of the West, the creator and promoter of the wicked "Assyrianism". Therefore, please do not trivialize the matter by reducing it to "names", because that is not the issue here. What is at the stake, are the crimes of the fake Western christian activities against our nation which you with all happiness seems to maintain. We are dealing here with cultural extermination of the Aramean nation, it is spiritual genocide. The Arameans fight against colonialism, against spiritual genocide, against hatred and division promoted by your Western colonial masters and creators among the Aramean nation.
Dear respected reader, please keep the following analyze in your mind when we will deal with chapter 2 on the quarrel with bishop Hazael Somi in Belgium in 2007.
2. Sabri Atman in Belgium: 9-2-2007 On the quarrel with Hazael Somi: Interview on 9-3-2007 and 11-3-2007.
In this two film fragments Atman wipes the floor with Mgr. Somi and cracks him utterly down. The way Mr. Atman is running down Mgr. Hazael Somi and presenting himself as "fighter" for standards and values reminds us of the disgusting, hate generating, criminal propaganda of the horrible, immoral spiritual colonisation and slavery product "Assyrians" in Holland against Mgr. J. Y. Cicek.
The mistakes of Mgr. Cicek were immensely exaggerated and repeated over and over again to present themselves as "progressive" and "open minded", in the eyes of some hateful, sewage and racist Dutch press, like for example the hateful local newspapers Twentsche Couran/ Tubantia. Extremely low level, harsh and denigrated articles were published from the hands of hateful and objectionable journalists Jan Ter Haar and Hes Lagrand, the two journalists of Twentsche Courant/Tubantia. The level of the articles was so hateful, so ruthless and dirty that even the most wicked people would feel ashamed to read such gutter publications.
2.1 The Position of Aram-Nahrin
On 25-5-2005 in a detailed analyze, concerning spiritual war against Mr. J.Y. Cicek, Aram-Nahrin denounced the behavior of Hazael Somi and others. We also showed clearly that according the detailed report of Mgr. J.Y. Cicek, Hazael Somi illegitimately became bishop.
However we feel Hazael Somi is much less dangerous to our people than Sabri Atman and others along with him. Why? Because the mistakes of bishop Hazael Somi are visible to everybody. And such a person, one should not be afraid of. However, where you certainly have to be afraid of- and we have already explained why and will do this more- are people like Sabri Atman who utterly point at the mistakes of others and exaggerate them in order to present themselves as the "good one", "civilized one" and "the honest one". The showpiece of the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians" is always the same, namely: exaggerating and repeating the mistakes of others in order to mask their own unholy acts.
As to genocide dear reader, we do not make a point of it, it is fact that happened, no discussion about it. It is very simple and clear. Everyone who denies this will be utterly disappointed with the facts (More about the Aramean genocide: http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/ArameanPhysicalGenocide.htm)
2.2. Interview with Sabri Atman on the events in Belgium.
The website of Ahna media seems to serve as platform for Sabri Atman to spread his displeasure on Hazael Somi, because according to Atman, bishop Hazael Somi would have denied the Aramean physical genocide. Not only via the website of Ahna media, but also via SuryoyoSat Atman have done his best to crack down Mgr. Hazael Somi. We cannot underscore enough to tell you that this is the trademark of the apostate Aramean who call themselves "Assyrians" to repeat the mistakes of others in order to cover their real intention and present themselves as "de good ones", "the civilized ones".
For the complete interview with Sabri Atman, including the possibility to download the Mp3- audio file, please click on this link. http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Interview_GabrielGenc_SabriAtman.htm
Comments
Below we are going to drop a few comments on this interview:
........The last time we have organized various activities in several places ... in Swedish Parliament .... Parliament of Great Britain.... and now, 26th of this month (February), we have a meeting ... where also the vice - chairman of the European Parliament will give a speech on Genocide....
The reason many of them who give Mr. Atman permission to access the building is, because they want to spite at the face of the Turks and not because they love you so much. I addition to this, they are your spiritual creators, so they will help you, they want to help their product "Assyrianism".
However with that, these countries commit a act of crime of the worst kind by giving your access to their buildings, for you are advertising the immoral spiritual product "Assyrians" by misusing the Aramean physical genocide. Great Britain is one of the worst and wickedest colonial nation in the world where they have exterminated and robbed so many peoples and indigenous nations. And now Mr. Atman is so proud of his Western masters to tell us that they give him access to their parliaments. Of course they will give him access, for Mr. Atman is promoting the spiritual product "Assyrians" of their forefathers. Atman is misusing the Aramean physical genocide as a pretext to glorify the unholy "Assyrianists" ideology, this is all about, and certainly not because of the genocide itself. However, the reason Mr. Atman is being supported by his Western creators has also a Messianic dimension which we latter on will discuss.
.......these activities.... are being kept up by Turkey and discussed..... Turkey denounces our activities.... via diverse ways they try to stop us...until now they did not succeed to stop us.
There goes Mr. Atman again! The Turks have sleepless nights because of the activities of Sabri Atman? Is that the reason they want to stop Sabri Atman? Is this not the ideology of the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians" to always create a "enemy" in order to gain sympathy within our people? Always trying to present themselves as "fighters" for the "justice", but in the meantime very actively busy to advertise the genocidal immoral Western product "Assyrians", to commit a spiritual genocide on the Aramean people.
.........His behavior is so inferior...bishop unworthy... clergyman unworthy... asking questions himself and giving answers... question after question... he comments my speech... and tries to belittle his guest... with empty words... this bishop he considers himself very high-ranking.... thinks he is full of wisdom.... but he is empty.....
Well, well, well! Wait a minute. Mr. Atman feels he has been belittled by Hazael Somi? Very strange indeed. Sometimes is very useful and interesting to check the past. We are going to refresh the memory of Mr. Atman on his hateful and belittled view not only towards the Aramean people but also towards Mr. Rabo. Below we repeat some of the, to our insight and analyze, tasteless, objectionable and perverse descriptions by Mr. Atman in two of his letters which he circulated on various forums. He says amongst others in these two letters: (http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Letter_Sabri_Atman_To_Suryoyo_Online_26_6_2006.htm) * The Taliban and Hezbollah have assumed Mohammed as a weapon and terrorize the whole world * Do not you feel that your approach have a lot in common with the two terror groups? * Do not you use Jesus as a weapon to promote backwardness and hostility within your own people? * Do these kind of people, who keep themselves with such unrelated debates, through insults and usage of abusive language, to gain the paradise? * Why do not these people change the name of their movement in Hisboll - Aram? * etc.... etc.....etc.... please read the complete letter. (http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Letter_Sabri_Atman_Suryoyo_Online_13_7_2007.htm) *Of course I knew the level of the other side *Also, you have surely took note of his answer in which every sentence reflects violation of the rules * One should know this: the answer I received from him was far from what decent and respectable people would write * Because the answer I received was from the beginning to the end based on untruths and allegations *Without shame, he described the verbal abuse and offences against my person as a 'criticism' *I must conclude that decent people, who have sense of responsibility, dot not act in this way *Is there too much distinction between your inflammatory writings and calls to Jihad and the calls to Jihad of Taliban? * etc... etc... please read the complete letter
As we already have mentioned, we again underscore that this people utterly misuse the mistakes of others in order to promote themselves. Their concern is definitely not the mistake itself, but rather to utterly exploit the mistake to demonize their victims in order to promote themselves and to cover their real intentions. That is their ultimate goal and nothing else. And that is also exactly the reason Atman is pointing at the mistakes of Mgr. Hazael Somi and ridicules him utterly.
.....All these stories (of Hazael) are of course nonsense. Since I have met Hazael Somi, I know that he is a featherbrain......
"a featherbrain?", Mgr. Hazael Somi? Wait a minute, if Hazael Somi is a featherbrain, what is Mr. Atman than? If Hazael Somi is featherbrain, why do you associate with him and go to Belgium?
Contrary to you, the mistakes of bishop Hazael Somi are visible to everybody. You also deny the Aramean spiritual genocide, don't you? This criminal genocide was committed by your Western masters and creators, while the physical genocide was committed by the Kurds and Turks. So what is the difference between denying the spiritual genocide and denying the physical genocide? And you? You just continue with committing the spiritual genocide of your masters by trying to "Assyrinaize" our people.
You glorify the fraudulent objectionable immoral colonial product "Assyrians", while Mgr. Hazael Somi certainly doesn't do that! You deny the Aramean spiritual genocide and you continue undiminished with your crusades against the Aramean people, while you complain about Mgr. Hazael Somi that he is denying the Aramean physical genocide.
So, again, what is the difference between Mr. Atman and Hazael Somi? No difference! Spiritual genocide, Mr. Atman is much more worse than physical genocide and to our view you and many others with you continue this in a shameless and brutal way, everywhere you try to promote perverse spiritual name "Assyrians" and with that you spit at the face of the Aramean nation; exactly what your Western Masters had in mind. This is what we call spiritual genocide, extermination of the cultural heritage of other people.
....it is now for the thirtieth time that I have been in Belgium, I did not saw more than three persons who were positive on the administration of Hazael Somi... everybody is talking about this issue...
If you know that there are no more than 3 people who do not take him serious, why do you take him serious and go to Belgium? Or perhaps the background thought is this one, namely "the goals justifies the means?" To lead the blind people up the garden path, and to spit in their face by saying "we are Syrians", and subsequently after they have turned their back to you, representing them as "Assyrians"? These are what we call "paying respect", "standards and values".
.....This is really.... outrageous... an clergyman of the Syrian Orthodox Church.... yet a bishop, who says something like this is a huge scandal....
This is the showpiece where you and many others with you utterly misuse in order to fool the blind people who really are not aware of anything. Yes, indeed, the mistakes of the clergy are being extremely exaggerated and repeated over and over again with only one goal: to present yourself as "the good one", "the civilized one", this is all about and nothing else.
..... a bishop who is ignorant... bishop Hazael... really.... makes a big mistake......
Where does this contempt comes from Mr. Atman? Was this not the same horrible contempt towards Suryoyo Online and Mr. Gabriel Rabo carried out by you and your "Assyrian" friends? You say that you have been in Belgium for the 30th time and yet you go and sit down with such an "featherbrain " and "ignorant" bishop? To our observation and analyze this only means one thing, namely: That you are worse than Mgr. Hazael Somi. The only problem is that we have a blind and foolish people who cannot distinguish between the lie and truth, between justice an injustice, that is all about!
The most remarkable thing Atman and many others who follow the fraudulent and hate generating "Assyrainists" ideology is, that they are as quiet as a mouse when the "Assyrian" terrorism (here, here) is concerned, including unsettling families, destruction of lives, raping of girls and killing of the boys in the name of this horrible and objectionable ideology. Well then, to fool and spit at the face of the blind people, they enlarge in detail the mistakes of Mgr. Hazael Somi (and others) in order to carefully cover their own deliberate errors. To our view, only a blind and a cursed people who have prepared themselves for a heavy judgment of the Lord will tolerate people like Atman. A respectable, honorable and a reliable nation would, to our view, have already chased you away with sticks.
2.3 Part 2 of the interview: 11-3- 2007: Their beards.... clothes... Taliban
....What I also want to make clear to the listeners is that there are clergymen within our people who have ties with the Turkish secret service.. there are clergymen, bishops within our people, within the Syrian Church who work together with the Syrian secret service........
Perhaps you are right, we don't know. If it is true what you say, and if it is not meant as smoke curtain for your agenda, than of course this is terrible and everybody should condemn it. But then Mr. Atman, we have a very sharp question for you and your friends who glorify the immoral colonial product "Assyrians", and that is this: Yes, the Turks, the Arabs and others are playing with our spiritual leaders, how about the Kurds? Why you guys remain so silent? How about the terrorist "Assyrians" who made a covenant with the PKK to distort the history of the Aramean nation and to glorify the unholy spiritual product "Assyrians" ? Nothing to say about that? It is just okay, because it suits your agenda? And do you and all others together with you, not follow the script as has been laid down by the terrorist organization ADO and PKK to falsify the history of the Aramean nation? Mr. Ocalan himself says, "We are going to change history".
In other words, the terrorist "Assyrians" commit in daylight acts of terror and you say nothing about it, while you are bursting to pull to the ears of the bishops and clergy because according to you, they are recruited by the Turkish and Syrian secret service.
But why are you looking so far? We have some indications that some "Assyrian" terrorists in Holland (and probably elsewhere) are recruited by the secret service in Holland to betray their people in exchange for the glorification of the criminal immoral name "Assyrians". That explains why this very terrorists, who are guilty of blood and raping of girls, have so easy access to the Dutch politics, European Parliament and other institutions. And most probably all this is okay to you, because they advertise the immoral name "Assyrans". Nothing to say about this? To wipe the floor with the clergy is so easy, because the fool, imbecile and blind people will not wake up and swallow everything?
…We should be aware of all these matters.…..
Yes, Amen. If you are right in your claims, we should indeed be aware of these matters, for they are very serious. On the other side, we also should be aware of your behavior, namely that according to our analysis you nourish a deep and demonic hatred towards the Aramean nation and are doing everything to culturally exterminate them by forcing the criminal name "Assyrians" onto them.
A criminal name invented by the colonial spiritual outsiders, a criminal name which has lead to terrorism, a criminal name which is the cause of hatred and division and has lead to the decline of the Aramean people. A criminal name which destroyed families and incited against each other. It is the horrible colonial spiritual Western invention of the objectionable Jesus of the West which you and many others with you try to force onto the Aramean people. And this is very serious matter! Our people should finally wake up, if they at the end do not want to face extermination!
…We should not give this people, now in the year 2007, permission anymore to misuse the division within our people against us...
"division" within our people? Look, look, look, who is talking! What "division" Mr. Atman? Who is responsible for this "division"? The first action our people should undertake is to drive you away with sticks and everywhere should refuse you the access. We believe that everywhere you come, you bring with you legions of demons of hatred, division and extermination. That is the reason we believe Mr. Atman that everywhere you come, people should drive you away in order to spiritually protect themselves and their children.
......to exploit the conflict which exist on the names Assyrians, Arameans, Syrians, Chaldeans and to create more division for their personnel interests to rule us........
There goes Mr. Atman again! "Conflict" which exists with us? "Personal" interest? Who is the cause of this conflict? This are almost prophetical words which, according to our observation, perfectly fit with the "Assyrinaists" who are the source of sorrow and division. What do we mean by that? Well, read the article "The primitive, superseded, yet very dangerous ADO ideology unmasked: Jesus Christ the Assyrian?" in detail and you will learn that the words of Mr. Atman literal have been fulfilled in de criminal ADO- ideology in consultation with the PKK.
We are convinced that this horrible ideology is known to Mr. Atman and that he is carrying it out in detail. A perfect camouflage for this is indeed endless repeating the mistakes of the clergy and trying even to ping matters to them they are not responsible for it. Why do we believe this? Well, because Atman knows perfectly that the ignorant, foolish and blind people will notice nothing. It is this blindness of our people which has resulted in their Diaspora and shall finally lead to their complete extermination and this we see clearly in Iraq. It is this blindness which makes it possible that people like Atman unhindered can play with our people without their awareness. As far as we see, Mr. Atman and his friends are responsible for the glorification of this immoral name "Assyrians" which is already besmirched with terrorism, to spread it to the entire world and with that they commit, to our understanding, a worst kind of genocide against the Aramean nation. And it is Mr. Atman who fools the people and no one else.
Therefore, how dare Atman to talk about standards and values in relation to the behavior of clergy when he himself maintains the colonial Western practices? This is not consonant, is it? Or are our people so much bewitched by injustice, lies and dirt that they allow such elements to do these things to them?
Indeed, it looks as if Atman tries with all means possible to ridicule the clergymen with the only goal to present himself as "civilized" and the "good one". However, with that he will not make it!
And please pay attention to his words when he says, " .....the names Assyrians, Arameans, Syrians, Chaldeans....."
Why four names for one and the same people? All the names have a Aramean origin, so why unnecessarily creating confusion? Was this also not the tactic of the terrorist organization ADO/GHB to tear up the Aramean people? And what is Mr. Atman doing? He just continues cheerfully! Mr. Atman should not create chaos by pointing to the mistakes of clergies to cover his own intentions regarding the glorification of the unholy name "Assyrians"- a name which has been besmirched with terrorism and a sort of wickedness.
The word Syrian is a synonymy for Arameans! Why does Mr. Atman mention these two names apart? Or may we make here the conclusion that Atman has no any respect whatsoever for the testimonies of the brilliant historians of the Syrian Church of Antioch who all testify of the Aramean origin of our people? Is this contempt not being embraced by the majority of those who identify themselves with this immoral colonial product "Assyrians" invented by the outsiders to create hatred and division within our nation? Why does Mr. Atman mention four names to identify our nation if not for creating division and inciting the people against each other?
......... This should be clear... we are Assyrians... we are Arameans... we are Syrians.. we are Chaldeans... all this names belong to us....
Nice try, however it is blah.... blah.... and again ..blah. Perhaps all these names are yours to create chaos and division. We have just one name and that is: Aramean (needless to say: Aramean= Syrian). All the other names are objectionable inventions of the criminal "jesus" of the West which Mr. Atman seems to be eager to bring under the attention of the world.
.......When a priest, a bishop come up and again notices this division and want to misuse it, we should prevent him in doing so.....
"a bishop"?, " a priest" ?, who "misuse" division? What do the priests and bishops have to do with the criminal and immoral Western product "Assyrians"? It was not their invention, was it? It were your Western masters who have invented the names "Assyrians" and "Chaldeans". So why do you involve the clergy in this matter? You should go to your Western masters and tell them why they have invented the fake names "Assyrians" and "Chaldeans" to destroy the Aramean nation.
By referring over and over again to the clergy, Mr. Atman applies the usual camouflaging technology by ridiculing the clergy in order to obscure the real problem, namely the immoral colonial criminal name "Assyrians" - the cause of sorrow and Diaspora
........The Arameans is ours and of nobody else.... how dare he to come up with that to misuse it against the Aramean friends?....
Oh, Oh, look, look,... very touching Mr. Atman, we get tears in our eyes! First trying to ridicule the Arameans in a unholy way by linking them to "Taliban", "Jihad" and "Hisbollah" and subsequently claiming the Aramean for himself? This is hypocrisy and crocodile tears to the extreme!
.....".......Aramean friends"..... of Atman? Who are these Aramean "friends" of Atman?
As far as Atman has "Aramean" friends, we believe we are dealing here with people who have no standards and values and are completely de-humanized.
.........We may give the hand to each other and work for our people.... and also on the issue of the genocide...
It is becoming more touching with Mr. Atman! To give one another the hands? In order to approve the Western criminal immorality? Who is being misused by outsiders to culturally exterminate the Aramean nation?
It is Mr. Atman who commits a genocide against the Aramean people and tries by all means possible to "Assyrianize" our nation. And everyone who, according to our view, gives him a hand is committing a crime against the Aramean nation.
...............Now in the year 2007, bishop Hazael should know that we will prevent him to scare our people by threatening with the hell and selling the kingdom..........
This also is exactly true for Mr. Atman. We should prevent him to misuse the Aramean physical genocide by promoting the Aramean spiritual genocide. And dear reader, please give attention to the fact that Mr. Atman is involving issues which has nothing to do with the subject matter by saying, "...the hell and selling the kingdom...." What is the background thought of involving "the hell" and "the kingdom" in the discussion and linking it to Mgr. Hazael Somi in order to create a certain atmosphere to fool the blind people? What has this to do with denying genocide? Could it be perhaps that there is a deep contempt of Mr. Atman for the Christian faith, as he also demonstrated in his campaign against Mr. Rabo and Suryoyo Online?
.......Bishop Hazael should know that our nation is not without persons who take care for them.... our people has persons who take care for them....
And Mr. Atman should know that there are people within our nation who bother about the Aramean people and who are not being duped by his talks. Our nation has people who do not let fool themselves by the nice talks of Atman like for example "we are one people", and subsequently everywhere he comes he tries to promote the fraudulent fake name "Assyrians". We consider this as a crime, fraud, deception and extreme lack of respect towards the Aramean people.
...........In the 100th anniversary we shall mobilize our people... if bishop Hazael and others... if they work together with Turkey.... if they prepare pitfalls for persons like me, we will not participate in the dame.
Also we are doing our best to unmask the real face of everyone who glorifies the "Assyrian" terrorism, who eagerly wish to continue colonial immorality, who try to hide the treacherous cooperation with the PKK, who commit treachery against their people in exchange of glorifying the hateful colonial Western spiritual product "Assyrians" etc... etc.. .
.....Who has heard that Hazael Somi has discussed the issue and brought under the attention of the European Parliament, Swedish Parliament, Belgium Parliament and other countries. ...
Does Mr. Atman want to glorify himself as far as the sky? Is Mr. Atman proud of his Western masters who give him access to various parliaments in order to glorify the spiritual genocide against the Aramean nation by presenting them as "Assyrians" ? Does he consider that as honouring and respecting the people?
……. I had a conversation with the consulate of Turkey.... in honouring me, last time they offered a dinner" He is very proud to tell such stories……..
Yes it is wrong! However why is Mr. Atman so selective in his approach? Mr. Atman is also very proud of his Western masters and creators who give him access to diverse places in order to distort the history of the Aramean people. So what is the point here?
Likewise in some countries of the Middle-East, some Aramean clergy are being used to weaken the people, in the same way Sabri Atman is being used by his Western masters to taunt and dishonour the Aramean nation by maintaining the spiritual colonialism which caused the downfall of the Aramean nation.
It is exactly because of that, Mr. Atman gets access to the Swedish, European and Belgian Parliament. In fact these countries commit a horrible form of spiritual genocide against our people. Sabri Atman is indeed proud of his Western masters who give him access, exactly in the same manner Mgr. Hazael Somi is proud of glorification by the Turkish consulate. So there is no difference! The big problem is that we have a extremely blind and foolish people who seems to be hypnotized by the empty talks of Sabri Atman.
.....Our priests, our bishops should know these things. They should change this mentality... it is the mentality of Taliban. ......
Can't Mr. Atman get enough of "Taliban"? Or is this a standard method of him and his friends to start a hate campaign against everyone who do not dance to their piping to demonize them? Or perhaps do we have to make the conclusion that by his behaviour, Mr. Atman is applying the Taliban ideology in daily life, and is using it to project onto others? Why also involving the clergy to fool the outsiders? Bishop Hazael Somi and Atman got involved in a quarrel, why generalizing it, if this would not be the standard method to ridicule? In chapter 1.1 we have seen that Sabri Atman exactly the same "technology" has applied to demonize Mr. Gabriel Rabo and Aramean people. And now, he comes across on his path Mgr. Hazael Somi, and starts to ridicule the clergy and link them to Taliban? Who is the next victim..... to be demonized by Atman?
.....Bishop Hazael Somi has made a calendar with his photo and the photo of the consul on it.... with pride he shows it.... He says in honoring me they gave a dinner....
This is certainly wrong. A bishop definitely should not keep himself busy with such things. However, we again ask the question: How about the "Assyrian" terrorists? They have made a covenant with the PKK to advertise the objectionable lie-name "Assyrians". They have recruited boys and girls in the West. They commit treason against their people in exchange of fraudulent fake name "Assyrians". All these matter are okay to Atman? Nothing to say about it? Just approving and accepting it?
.....What has the consulate to do with the honor of the bishop of the Syrian Orthodox Church? What the Turks are doing is... that they have win the trust of some of our bishops whom they use against us....
There is nothing new under the sun! The PKK is exactly doing the same. Mr. Abdullah Ocalan said "we are going to change the history" And Mr. Atman and others seem to work very hard to achieve this. Just very normal, nothing to say about it, because it is the promotion of the lie-name "Assyrian"? Why cannot individuals like Atman see their own foolishness, but are ready to vomit gamut of accusations at others?
.......I said that I get information that Turkey says that they have won the trust our bishop and use them against us....
This is certainly very well possible. However, we have strong evidences that PKK have used the "Assyrian" terrorist to commit a spiritual genocide against our people. So, what is the difference? Why do Atman and other apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians" remains silent like a mouse when dealing with "Assyrian" terrorism?
............ bishop Hazael Somi is not the only one... there are also other clergymen involved.... With their clothes, with their beards.... with their mentality they have in their mind.... there is no difference between them and Taliban.
Dear reader, please read this very carefully! If you do not get shocked, you have understood nothing of it! And please pay attention to the words of Mr. Atman, as he is saying, "...their clothes....", "...their beards...", "...their mentality.... ", "..their mind...", "...and Taliban...."
A clergy may make a mistake! But what does his "clothes" and "beard" have to do with it? And why linking them to "Taliban?" Does it mean that the faith of the clergy is the same as Taliban? Because of these and other reasons we consider these qualifications as extremely shameless, brutal, demonic, evil and hateful contempt towards Syrian Orthodox Church of Antioch and our faith. Why do we see like that?
* What do the clothes and the beard of the clergy have to do with the mistakes of bishop Hazael Somi and others if this is not for horrible form of contempt? * By stating that "...with their mentality they have in their mind..." does not he in deeper sense want to say that the foundation of the Syrian Orthodox Church of Antioch is wrong? * If we look carefully at the contempt, what does it has to do with denying genocide? * Or did Sabri Atman, with the previous statements and allegations, unmasked his real face?
.............It is necessary that those priests, those clergymen, those bishops who damage the people.... they should know that there are people like me who already for a long time work together with the hell... we will not allow them to sell the kingdom to our people.... They should understand themselves.....
This we believe is also true for Mr. Atman and his friends. Although the Aramnahrin Organisation has been utterly demonized by the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians", it will for sure not prevent us to unmask their real face and inform our people. The more they demonize us, the more the Creator of the Heaven and earth will have mercy upon us and help us. It perhaps may sound strange, however the demonic hatred of the "Assyrian" terrorists against our organisations time after time, converted to great blessing by the Lord God (they do not know that).
And please dear reader, again stand still and take a breath that Mr. Atman is targeting the clergy without standing still about the "Assyrian" terrorists who caused murder, destruction and division within our nation worldwide. It is exactly the same kind of hatred conducted in the past by some "Assyrian" terrorists in Holland against Mgr. J. Y. Cicek.
This people utterly exploit the mistakes of the clergy (and others) and involve matters which have nothing to do with the mistake in question by creating a kind of smoke screen.
....I... have.... may the Lord bless his soul.... together wish bishop Cicek.... visited various churches, gave various speeches.... ...
Yes indeed, this is true. And we believe that this amongst others was one of the reasons that has led to the complete downfall of Mgr. J.Y. Cicek.
.....together with bishop Benjamin in Sweden... together with the clergymen of the Syrian Church..... few churches where I not have been.... and all of them paid respect to me... they saw and were shocked.... and were very happy....
We believe that every church each time makes the doors open for Sabri Atman, they invite inside the church the demons of hatred and division. We believe that everybody who in one or another way get involved with Mr. Atman, or supports him, will inevitably in the near future be confronted with spiritual damage.
2.4. The Western masters and the Antichrist the “Assyrian": Why?
From the previous analyze we have learned that Sabri Atman boast on the fact that he has access to the various Parliaments where he spoke on the genocide issue. The question is why? Why do these Western countries invite Atman for a speech in their Parliament, in particular the notorious Great Britain which exterminated and robbed, as world power, many pious indigenous cultures and people? Are they really interested in the genocide of the Arameans, or is there something else going on behind the scenes? Sabri Atman always speaks of "Assyrian" Genocide. Therefore what kind of interest do the Western masters of Sabri Atman have to make the name "Assyrians" known to the public?
This matter will be dealt with in a separate analyze, however below we will give a short answer to these questions which hopefully will be very refreshing and will make the eyes of many people open.
If we look at the Bible, amongst in the Bible book Revelation and Daniel, it becomes clear that the antichrist shall arise from Europe; the former Roman Empire, at least this is de view of many scholars. When he officially shall speak to the European Parliament, he will do it possibly from the chair number 666 (it seems still to be vacant). From that position he will introduce himself as the world leader, as the man who cares about all the peoples, tribes, nationalities and cultures. He shall amongst others beside many other ethnicities, as the leader of the world, identify himself as a.... "Assyrian".... Of course he will do it in such a way that almost nobody will notice the significance of it ... except the initiated ones and to the less degree the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians". And most probably they will embrace him and receive him with open arm, like they cheered George Bush when he on various occasions took the word "Assyrian" in his mouth (here, here)
And that explains also the reason why the ex-man and the ex-wife, respectively Mr. Sabri Atman and madam Attiya Tunc (alias: Attiya Xamri, Gamri, Beth Arsan ) have so good access to amongst others the European Parliament, the national parliaments and other institutions to advertise the criminal colonial immoral invention "Assyrians".
Before the antichrist can identify himself amongst others as "Assyrian", it would be desirable to first make this name known to the public so that they would not be amazed when the antichrist identifies himself as "Assyrian" in the European Parliament. And this explains why some people within the Evangelical Broadcasting Channel, representing themselves as "Christians", since long time are busy with all means possible to advertise this unholy colonial immoral invention of their forefathers. Please keep one thing in mind and that is this: The Bible states clearly that before the antichrist can appear on the world scene, first the wickedness and rebellion within the Church in general and Western Church in particular will reach a climax after which they will welcome him as their savior (2 Thessa. 2:3).
Now, the question is of course why in particular "Assyrian"? What is the reason behind the fact that he will identify himself as "Assyrian", beside other ethnicities? The answer to this question is fascinating and reveling! Why, you could ask? Well, from the Bible we understand that the antichrist will show extremely his deep hatred and nourish unimaginable contempt towards the Lord God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. In Revelation 13:5-6 we read, "The beast was allowed to make proud claims which were insulting to God, and it was permitted to have authority for forty-two months. 6 It began to curse God, his name, the place where he lives, and all those who live in heaven"
In the Bible Book Nahum we read about the extermination of the ancient Assyrians. In chapter 1 verse 11, we read a very interesting quote, namely “From you comes forth [one] Who plots evil against the LORD, A wicked counselor”
This quote says something about the satanic origin of the ancient Assyrians and explains for a important part the demonic power which is behind the present-day apostate Arameans who call themselves “Assyrians”, the blind fanaticism, the cause of terrorism. A human being of flesh and blood can create cunning schemes against the Lord God Yahweh. However, the aforementioned quote is beyond that which a human being of flesh and blood can think of. This quote, dear reader, points out to the far future, namely the real spiritual Assyrian, the Antichrist, the resurrected spirit of Nimrod, it is a “double prophecy.”
Please also note that the early church fathers were quite well familiar with the term "Assyrian", which they considered as equal to the "Satan". Quintus Septimus Florens Tertullianus (a lawyer from Carthage, ca. 160 AD) says, " ,, "On this wise, accordingly, (Scripture) entitled the magi also with the appellation of "Samaritans,"--"despoiled" (of that) which they had had in common with the Samaritans, as we have said--idolatry in opposition to the Lord. (It adds), "in opposition," moreover, "to the king of the Assyrians,"--in opposition to the devil, who to this hour thinks himself to be reigning, if he detrudes the saints from the religion of God. (His book: An answer to the Jews, Page 9)
And the secret societies worldwide, who will help the antichrist to the power, are very well aware of these matters. It is certainly not meaningless that he shall identify himself as a "Assyrian", it has a deep occult meaning. A example of antichrist was the Assyrian king Sanharib. In 2 Kings 19:10, he calls the Lord God a "deceiver"; while in reality the antichrist himself will be a deceiver , who will take the power by means of "all kinds of false miracles and wonders" and "every kind of wicked deceit" (2 Thessa. 2:9-10)
The aforementioned can be summarized as follows: The antichrist shall identify himself as a "Assyrian", firstly because in Micah 5:5-6 and Isaiah 10:5-6 he is called "Assyrian". Secondly, he will call himself "Assyrian" to underscore his extreme rebellion and contempt towards the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. He is the resurrected spirit of Nimrod/ Asshur the first antichrist. At the moment the antichrist will give a speech in the European Parliament, perhaps many apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians" will be present in the European Parliament, possibly including madam Attiya Tunc, Mr. Sabri Atman, sympathizers, perhaps even the Patriarch of the Assyrian Apostolic Catholic Church of the East, and "Assyrian" Organisations.
It is also possible that a team of the "Christians" Evangelical Broadcasting Channel and other "Christian" organisations will be present at the moment antichrist will identify himself as a "Assyrian". And possibly those among "Christians" as Tijs van den Brink, Elbeth Grutteke, Mattea Vrij, and others may make a great fanfare of it to inform that the "Assyrians" are remembered by the "Great and Holy Peacemaker".
And all the "Assyrians" will welcome and embrace him with open arms, including accepting his sign on their hand or forehead (Revelation 13:16). This finally will lead to their complete extermination as punishment for their foolishness and fanaticism. They loudly welcomed and cheered Bush to Iraq which resulted in the decline of the Aramean people. They will embrace the antichrist as the real "Assyrian" and as their savior which will result in their complete extermination.
Another important detail is, as some Christians claim, that the antichrist will arise from the British Royal family and some people even go so far to identify him with prince William who in 2012 (the magical year of the Maya calendar) exactly will be 30 years of age. He than would have exactly the same age as our Lord Jesus Christ when He started with His ministry in Israel. And this age of 30 years is also minimum required, according to the Jewish law, to be inaugurated as priest.
If indeed the assumption is correct that the British Royal Family will produce the antichrist, this would explain for a important part the reason why the Anglican mission and British diplomats have done everything to invent and advertise the immoral name "Assyrians" by brainwashing the East-Aramean Nestorians of Urmia and Hakkari to call themselves such! And this again in turn explains why the British government is eager to invite Mr. Sabri Atman to their parliament to talk about the "Assyrian" genocide.
The last point is this: 80% of the Western media, including "Christian" media, is in the hands of secret societies who all together will bring the antichrist on the world scene. You can be sure that not a single article in the newspaper will be published or a coverage will be broadcasted in which "Assyrianism" is being promoted, unless beforehand carefully is being considered and discussed. Please do not be misguided by "strong lobby" of the "Assyrianists", because really that is so silly, it just means nothing! The fact that they succeed over and over again to bring this fake name under the attention, has nothing to do with lobby. They are being used by higher powers who later will bring their man on the world scene. And in this huge satanic plan, also fits their support for the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians".
As a Human Rights Organisation we already in 2005 made our people aware that Hazael Somi, according to our view, had illegitimately became bishop. Someone who, in this way, forces himself on the people cannot be, to our view, a Christian. The consecration of bishop Hazael Somi was a part of great plan carved by Matta Rohom to become Patriarch. All these issues we have in detail explained in our analysis of 2005.
However dear reader, we should not confuse the matters with each other and let we please not become dazzled by losing the overview. Mgr. Hazael Somi may have become illegitimately bishop, but let we please not be fooled that Sabri Atman is better than Hazael Somi, because he is being ridiculed by Atman. Unfortunately, our people is extremely blind on these matters.
If you have studied the previous analysis properly, you probably may have noticed the following issues:
1. Sabri Atman and others with him always assume themselves the victim-role and from that position they start their propaganda and ridicule everybody who comes on their path. 2. From that victim-position they involve matters in the discussion which has nothing to do with it; create a kind of smoke curtain. 3. The hatred of Mr. Atman towards the Arameans is to our analysis unprecedented. His Western colonial masters seem to have found in Atman a strong instrument to taunt and dishonour the Aramean nation. 4. Sabri Atman seems to nourishes a horrible hatred towards the Aramean nation, in agreement with the objectionable "Assyrianist" ideology. 5. Most probably Mr. Atman is following, likewise many others, the script as have been laid down by ADO and PKK, under the guidance of their Western masters, to distort the history of the Aramean people. 6. It seems that Sabri Atman and his friends utterly demonize others to present themselves as "the good guys", at the moment they discover that their face is being unmasked. '7. Atman and his friends repeat and repeat over again the mistakes of the clergy and others to present themselves as "the good one", "the honest one" and "the civilized one". 8. Atman uses the word "Syrian" in reference to our people only to lead the blind people up to the garden path. In the perception of Atman, the name "Syrian" automatically means "Assyrian", because they apply the lost- A trick. 9. Atman is doing everything to distort the Aramean history and to "Assyrinaize" our nation. This dear reader, we consider as purposefully committing a spiritual genocide. He and others are doing everything to uproot the Aramean nation of its origin. 10. We believe that it is because of this blind fanatical "Assyrian" ideology, which got involved with terrorism, and committed crimes against our people. It is because of this ideology that in 2006 our people was added to the terror list of the Turkish Supreme court.
Looking at the behaviour of Mgr. Hazael Somi, one may draw the following conclusions:
1. As we have heard, Hazaeal Somi seems to deny the physical genocide. However, Sabri Atman denies spiritual genocide. 2. Nowhere we ever read that bishop Hazael Somi is glorifying the immoral Western criminal spiritual colonial product "Assyrians". Mr. Atman does follow this ideology and tries to force onto the Aramean people. As far as we see, this is a act of cultural extermination of our people. 3. Spiritual genocide is much worse than the physical genocide. It is also the cause of hatred and division. And this may lead to the extermination of the spirit of the person. Physical genocide only exterminates the body, not the spirit.
Based on the aforementioned we are of the opening that Hzael Somi at least 10 cent is better than Sabri Atman. Because of their ignorance, some blind fools let them misguide by the rhetoric and nice talks of Sabri Atman, they cannot analysis and put the matters into perspective. Although in other context, however one gets tempted, to explain the blindness of this fools, by quoting the following, namely, ".... They will perish because they did not welcome and love the truth so as to be saved. 11 And so God sends the power of error to work in them so that they believe what is false" (2 Thess 2:10)
3. Sabri Atman, the Mor Qurayaqos church in Enschede and "Het Netwerk".
As a response to our letter, Mr. Atman wrote a letter, to support his Western masters of the Current Affairs Program "Het Netwerk". We are grateful to Mr. Atman, because in his letter he reveals his own true face and of those who work together with him and at the same time he indeed is confirming our analysis. Below we will comment some parts of the letter of Mr. Atman.
The letter with the English translation can be found here: http://www.aramnahrin.org/English\Letter_S_Atman_29_10_2006_Netwerk.htm
Below we will drop some comments:
..... This is necessary to prevent that clarity make would make place for confusion and justice be replaced by injustice.........
Look here who is talking about "justice" and "injustice". However, Mr. Atman and his friends seem have succeeded to get unconditional support from their Western masters to spit in the face of the Aramean nation; that is their task they got from them.
Yes indeed, the truth has been twisted and changed into lie, the falsehood into goodness, exactly like the Lord God says, "You are doomed! You call evil good and call good evil. You turn darkness into light and light into darkness. You make what is bitter sweet, and what is sweet you make bitter" (Isaiah 5:20)
........We are of the opinion that all these names (Assyrian, Suryoyo, Chaldeans, Akkadian, Aramaic, Sumerian, Babylonian, Nestorian) refer to the same community with a common identity. Mesopotamia is the historical homeland of our community, but national and cultural influences have extended to the Mediterranean sea........
This indeed is the ideology of the terrorist organization ADO like explained thoroughly, and Mr. Atman seems to follow this ideology. They indeed proclaim in this way to create chaos and confusion and at the end they say "Assyrian" name is the best choice of all. Their Western "Christian" creators use this kind of "prove" and "statements" to spit at the face of the Aramean nation.
........We and the major part of our community that consists of different Christian denominations have chosen the name Assyrian as collective name for all these names.....
Look how they twist the truth. "Major part"? What a silly joke! How does Mr. Atman knows that the majority of our people is identifying themselves with the criminal ideology of ADO? Is this wishful thinking? Mr. Atman seems not to bother about what is right and what is wrong, what is fair and what is unfair, the goal seems to justify the means.
…….Often we add Suryoyo after between two parentheses because the term Suryoyo evolved from the term Assyrian……..
Thank you very much for this statement. Indeed, this is the criminal ideology of the terrorist organisation ADO which is following the so-called lost A-trick to "Assyrianize" the Aramean people. More about this:
http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/The_Primitive_dangerous_ADO_ideology_16_9_2008.htm http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Assyria_Syria_John_Joseph_5_7_2008.htm https://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Assyrians_loyalty_PKK_Ocalan_23_4_2018.htm
……A small group of fanatics who belong to the Chaldean church, call themselves only Chaldeans and a small group of individuals who belong to the Syrian Orthodox Church call themselves only Aramaic.……
"Small group of fanatics?" Well, well, well! Look here how the things are being turned upside down. Typical twisting of the facts. A small group "fanatics" who call themselves Aramaic? All the scholars of the Syrian Churches testify of their Aramean origin. They of course also are small "fanatics", right? Is this "small" group perhaps more than 90% of the Aramean people worldwide? And who is more entitled to be called "fanatics" ? The "Assyrian" terrorists (here, here) who made a covenant with the PKK or the majority of the Aramean people worldwide who rejects "Assyrian" fanaticism? Is the hatred of Atman towards the Aramean nation so huge, which exactly would be in agreement with what his Western creators had in mind, to everywhere designate the Arameans as "fanatics", "Hezbollah" and "Jihad"? And does not this hatred of Atman and others actually imply that they definitely do not care about genocide itself, but merely are using it to advertise the fraudulent and objectionable Western invention "Assyrians"? And do not they try everywhere possible to put the Arameans in a bad light like for example was done during the criminal court case of the terrorist "Assyrians" in Germany in 2003? The terrorist "Assyrians" identified themselves during the court case as "Arameans" in order not to defile the criminal name "Assyrians" with terrorism. This, dear reader, shows how they work and act!
And than Mr. Atman quotes the British historian Arnold Toynbee to "prove" that it is "Assyrian" genocide, namely ," It will be remembered that the Assyrians (better known in Church history as the Nestorian or Syrian Christians), page 200. The Treatment ofArmenians in the Ottoman, 1915- 1916, James Bryce and Arnold Toynbee, Gomidas Institute “
Well, well, well, look here whom Atman is quoting to prove that he is a "Assyrian"! British, who are they? They are the spiritual creators and masters of Mr. Atman and others to exterminate the Aramean nation. And now Atman is proud of his creators to show that they care about the "Assyrian" genocide, exactly like George Bush expressed his "sympathy" to the "Assyrians" in Iraq which resulted in the near ethnic cleansing of the Arameans of Iraq. This people cannot understand that themselves are a instrument in the hands of others to exterminate their own people.
……Finally, I would like to point out that at present the Turkish government is doing everything possible to carry on a divide and rule politics within our community to which individuals have been threatened after the broadcast. The debate around the terminology Assyrian Genocide is encouraged and maintained by Turkish forces.........
The Turkish government? What do the Turks have to do with the hateful campaign of Mr. Atman and his friends, under supervision of his colonial Western masters, against the Aramean nation? Why involving the Turks? Is Atman becoming so paranoia? His hatred towards the Turks seems to be demonic and huge that behind every tree he sees a Turk hiding?
But this is the tactic of Mr. Atman and others, isn't it? At the moment the truth, which he seems to hate so much, becomes visible to the outside world, Mr. Atman and his friends start to attack and ridicule. Please also pay attention to the fact that Mr. Atman assumes the role of "the victim" and from that position he tries to convince his "Christian" Western masters. Denouncing the criminal Western product "Assyrian", Mr. Atman calls "divide and rule politics" of the Turks. What do the Turks have to do with the immoral colonial Western inventions "Chaldeans" and "Assyrians" with the aim to exterminate the Aramean nation? It were the spiritual colonial creators of Mr. Atman who caused sorrow and destruction among our beloved nation, isn't it? So, why this rhetoric? To please his Western masters who nourish a deep contempt against the Turks?
But, wait a minute! Why such hatred against the Turks? This has probably to do, as Mr. Atman himself has indicated during a broadcast of SuryoyoSat on 10-4-2008, with his escape from Turkey for "political motives". Political motives? What political motives? Perhaps communist political activities in Turkey?
Is his eagerness for genocide perhaps also indicates his personal hatred towards the Turks? So, perhaps is the genocide not the real point, but just a mean in his hands to use it against the Turks, like for example some Western countries do?
Dear reader, please read carefully, the monstrous alliance between the immoral Western colonial spiritual product "Assyrians" and the PKK: http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Monstrous_Alliance_PKK_ADO_24_4_1993.htm
What do the Turks have to do with this horrible alliance between ADO and PKK? Was this covenant not coined under the supervision of the Western " Christian" masters and creators of Sabri Atman and others?
Why does he involve the Turks, who have nothing to do with it, while Mr. Atman and his friends continue to create hatred and division within our people? Or is this perhaps a kind of smoke curtain to touch the right chord of some hateful antichristian racists within the EO and NCRV in order to get their sympathy? Or does Mr. Atman count on the Turko-fobia of some racists?
At the end Mr. Atman says that the letter is also co-signed by the following persons:
The letter itself is only signed by Mr. Atman himself. The other persons have not signed the letter. So, we do not know if the names of these persons are put on this letter with their consent or not! Perhaps this is a diversionary tactic of Atman to give more authority to his letter, we don't know! On the other hand, we don't know whether this people have condemned this or not.
4. Interview Sabri Atman SuryoyoSat 10-4-2008
As usual, Atman assumed the role of the victim and from that position he tried to attack bishop Hazael Somi for denying Physical Aramean genocide. Mr. Atman made a enormous Public Relation for his private "Seyfo Centre"- mainly meant to distort the Aramean history-, with which he taunts and fools the Aramean people. From this victim role he presented himself as pious and noble someone "working without personal benefit for the Syrian people". He mentioned many examples to promote himself, including marathon in Enschede (Holland), conference in European Parliament, British Parliament, Sarajevo etc.. etc.. As usual, Mr. Atman "forgot" to mention that with all his activities he glorifies the Aramean spiritual genocide and purposefully and against their will, he designates them as "Assyrians".
His host, Suleyman Akguc, made the matters worse and praised Atman as high as the skies for his "good" and noble "efforts". With that, Mr. Akguc demonstrated his deep contempt towards the Aramean nation and delivered a immense spit at the face of our nation.
The two hour long broadcast was finished by Akguc as follows, "Dear audiences, we now come to the end of our program, which we made with our honored visitor, Mr. Sabri Atman about his works, results, about his efforts, his speeches, which he gives in various countries all over the world on the genocide. Really, such persons, who accept such a task which is important for this whole nation, we should completely make our hart open and support them and help them in many ways. This will strengthen them, give them also hope to achieve their goal, together to achieve this goal.
Persons like this one, I do not know what Iskender Gavriye (Agkuc makes mistake, it was Iskender Demirel) meant, but this kind of people, I believe it is pity to stumble them. It is pity not to reach them the right hand. In stead to make this people stumble, who are doing so much effort and on top of that, in stead to help them, to become the cause of preventing them of their work, this we have to ask ourselves and we should all be honest to each other and help these brothers.
To help and not stumble, and really also here, really as far as I see, if such people stand up from the community, whether politics, whether ecclesial, whatever, when people stand up and their voice is being heard, who have a high rank within the community, and when the people talk about them and somebody says ' a certain person have said this', I do not consider that as a mistake.
I say that perhaps these people also may contribute to this matter where our people should give each other the hand to achieve such a goal, all together.........." (See mp3-file. http://www.aramnahrin.org/Photo/SabriAtman_SuryoyoSat_10_4_2008_End.mp3)
Later on, we will drop few comments concerning this broadcast, however, first we ask this question: Why did Mr. Suleyman Akguc invite Sabri Atman to promote himself for 2 hours? Was it so difficult for Mr. Akguc to check wit the Aramean organizations and probe their experiences with Mr. Atman? Or perhaps Mr. Akguc smelled a rat and in advance knew what the answer of the Aramean organization already was? We are going to summarize this in a few points:
The answer: Sabri Atman is family to Suleyman Akguc.
1. We can be sure of one thing: Suleyman Akguc is certainly not backwards. There must be more going on. 2. During the live broadcast, the father of Sulayman Akguc, Mr. Gevriye Akguc, called. Gevriye Akguc reveald that Sabri Atman is family of Suleyman Akguc. Literal, he said "The person sitting next to you is your Mgalati (cousin from mother side)". Thus, Atman is the son of the sister of the mother of Akguc, the son of his aunt from mother side, a cousin. Whatever the matter, they are related to one another. And perhaps because of that reason, Mr. Suleyman Akguc did not probe the view of Aramean organizations? How do you call such a behavior, dear reader? Corruption and favoritism on which the Aramean nation is being sacrificed? 3. Or perhaps was the hatred towards bishop Hazael Somi much bigger than the love for the Aramean people? And that is why the Aramean nation was being sacrificed? 4. To our view, this is certainly not evidence of respect and purity!
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….."Dear audiences, we now come to the end of our program, which we made with our honored visitor, Mr. Sabri Atman about his works, results, about his efforts, his speeches, which he gives in various countries all over the world on the genocide. ……
Akguc efendi, there are some Aramean organisations which worldwide have done much more than Sabri Atman who is involved with crusades against the Aramean nation. However, as you yourself and others know very well, there are walking around in Sweden, Holland and Germany some rotten de-humanized and dirty creatures who have just one goal in their life and that is: to subject everything and everyone and to serve them. We know exactly who these criminals are, and who their dehumanized friends in Holland are.
It is known that the Aramnahrin organisation works very independent and in purity for the interests of our people worldwide. That is a big torture to those individuals who want to subjects others. We know exactly the dirty games of the apostate Arameans who call themselves "Assyrians". However, the behaviour of some evil people who fool our nation worldwide by calling themselves "Syrians" or Arameans will certainly be unmasked as well. It will be a comparable analysis to the "Spiritual brother killing of Mgr. J. Y. Cicek".
Ask some individuals there in Sweden, when SuryoyoSat was established, to whom they had talked when they were in Holland. Ask them what some criminal racists have said about Aramnahrin here in Holland. You can be100% sure, all this evilness will be unmasked in the near future. And some people will shit oneself when the truth will become visible.
….. Really, such persons, who accept such a task which is important for this whole nation, we should completely make our hart open and support them and help them in many ways. …..
And with this Mr. Akguc, you have approved the horrible hatred which Sabri Atman seems to nourish against the Aramean nation. In addition to this you have, witting or unknowing, demonstrated your deep contempt towards the Aramean nation.
…. This will strengthen them, give them also hope to achieve their goal, together to achieve this goal. …..
You are definitely right, yet what kind of strength? Well, it will give them strength to continue with committing spiritual genocide against the Aramean people, something which you unfortunately have promoted during the broadcast.
….Persons like this one, I do not know what Iskender Gavriye (Agkuc makes mistake, it was Iskender Demirel) meant, but this kind of people, I believe it is pity to stumble them. It is pity not to reach them the right hand. ….
Is it "pity" not to reach them the hand? So that they can continue with their genocidal war against the Aramean nation? Mr. Akguc, below we are going to explain to you what most probably Mr. Iskender Demirel wanted to say.
Mr. Demirel asked four questions to Sabri Atman. The last one was, ".....after this, my last question, I want to say, I do not to make it long-winded, I will keep it short: We see that there is division between honored Sabri and someone else, I do not want to mention names, on the issue of genocide, in Europe and many other countries. What is the cause of the division, why do they not show this division to the people, which exist between people like Sabri Atman and other persons..... do not they all see themsleves as Syrians, the sons of this people, who defend this people? Thank you....."
(See for the audio mp3: http://www.aramnahrin.org/Photo/SabriAtman_SuryoyoSat_10_4_2008_Iskender_Demirel.mp3)
Well said Mr. Iskender Demirel, indeed, what is the cause for this division? Most probably, if Mr. Akguc had done a good research, he would not have had invited Mr. Atman, this is at least our analyze. We don't know exactly, however perhaps Mr. Demirel was referring with his last question to the unimaginable hate-campaign, like we have explained, initiated by Sabri Atman and his friends in Germany and Holland against Mr. Gabriel Rabo and the Aramean nation.
Well then, Mr. Akguc, now we have provided you with a possible explanation concerning the remark of Iskender Demirel, now you can switch over to take the following actions, at least if you have a spark of standard and values, namely:
1. Explain in detail the monstrous alliance, including the criminal satanic ADO-ideology, between the PKK and "Assyrian" terrorists which was meant to culturally exterminate the Aramean nation: http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/The_Primitive_dangerous_ADO_ideology_16_9_2008.htm http://www.aramnahrin.org/English/Monstrous_Alliance_PKK_ADO_24_4_1993.htm
2. Invite the Attorney General from Germany to inform about the criminal court case against the "Assyrian" terrorists which took place in 2003 in Germany. Ask the Attorney General about how they recruited boys and girls in Europe, about how they raped the girls, about how they killed the boys. This is your task Mr. Akguc.
The "Assyrian" terrorists are doing everything to "Asyrianise" the Aramean nation. However, when they get in trouble with the police or the law, they present themselves as "Arameans" to ridicule the Aramean nation. This is their deep hatred and perverted mind towards the Aramean nation. Well then Mr. Akguc, it is your moral obligation to unmask this criminals. If you do not have the courage and the guts to do this, please leave everything to us, and you will see how we will unmask these satanic Mafiosi who are a perfect instrument in the hands of their Western masters to create division, hatred and hostility within our nation.
…. To help and not stumble, and really also here, really as far as I see, if such people stand up from the community, whether politics, whether ecclesial, whatever, when people stand up and their voice is being heard, who have a high rank within the community, and when the people talk about them and a somebody says ' a certain person have said this', I do not consider that as a mistake. …..
To help? Whom to help Mr. Akguc? Only those who work in pious and pure way. As we previously have demonstrated, Mr. Atman and others only do care about genocide to promote "Assyrianism". And with that they commit, we believe, a genocide against the Aramean nation and of course that will please their Western masters. That is their ultimate goal.
You say "who have a high rank within the community, and when the people talk about them and a somebody says ' a certain person have said this', I do not consider that as a mistake.
We completely agree with you Mr. Akguc! So start as soon as possible to unmask the horrible and monstrous covenant between PKK and terrorist "Assyrians". Let people wake up!
…… ……I say that perhaps these people also may contribute to this matter where our people should give each other the hand to achieve such a goal, all together.........."…………………..
Mr. Akguc, your task is to unmask the treachery, to unmask those who sell their people to others for money, to denounce the lie and fallacies, with that you will do a great service to our people.
As we believe, by inviting Atman to promote himself for 2 hours, Mr. Akguc showed his deep contempt towards the Aramean nation. For this reason, a great penance is required to the Aramean people, the least Mr. Akguc can do.
5. The biggest victims of Atman.
The biggest victims of Sabri Atman who play into his hands, we believe, are those who call themselves "neutrals" and say neither "Aramean", nor "Assyrian", but only Syrian. What a silly and blind fools! However, they are not neutral at all, on the contrary. Because of their blindness, often unintentional, they play into the hands of Sabri Atman. Those " neutrals" are factually, witting or unwitting, supporters of Atman. They do not want to hear the truth; for it hurts.
Often we are dealing here with people who: 1) are illiterate and therefore cannot think, 2) Have family members who are involved with "Assyrian" terrorism, 3) Have financial interests, 4) Are involved with the church councils, 5) Have no feelings for standards and values, 6) are corrupted and dehumanized to the core of their spirit!
As a International Human Rights Organisation we appeal to Sabri Atman and say:
1. Recognize the Aramean spiritual genocide and stop with your crusades against the Aramean people whom you with all means possible try to "Assyrianize". 2. Please let down your Western masters who use you and others to advertise their invention "Assyrians", for their man (the antichrist) shall sit on chair number 666 in the European Parliament and identify himself amongst others as "Assyrian". 3. Please come back to the roots of your forefathers and stop with committing spiritual genocide, creating hatred and division within your own people by glorification of colonialism. 4. Respect your people and stop with speaking in two tongs. When you are among the people you say always "Suryoye", but when the people turn their back to you, you always use the name "Assyrians". That does not fit with each other, does it? And as far as we see, this is a kind of fraud and deception of worst kind. 5. Stop with the continuation of the immoral divide and rule politics of the Western colonial activities. 6. The glorification of the fraudulent name shall at the end lead to your destruction and the extermination of many others with you, exactly as many of you have cheered Bush because he mentioned the name "Assyrian". This has resulted in the downfall of our people in Iraq.
7. General message for the terrorist "Assyrians"
After we discussed in detail, based on documents, the behavior of Mr. Atman towards the Aramean people, now we will address few remarks to some dehumanized "Assyrian" terrorists who will become furious when they read the aforementioned analysis. Their standard accusations and allegations will be like this: "They work for the Turks", "They work with our enemies", "Our enemies are happy with this", "They divide our people", "Their goals is to exterminate the Assyrians" etc... etc...
We know that many among you consider Atman as a kind of "god" and glorify him into the sky. We know exactly how you think and how you handle. We know exactly your wicked and satanic hatred towards Aramnahrin, other organizations and private persons, all this of course is perfectly in agreement with your being and spirit. Do not try to fall down more in the satanic spiritual sea by trying to demonize Aramnahrin organization on your forums or in a other way; your evil intentions are well-known. You yourself are a immoral product of Western antichristian hatred and perversity. That explains why you get access to various institutions to promote your unholy ideology. And that is exactly also the reason that some politically motivated racist Western "scholars" join you and sit down with you at table and hypnotize you with the words like "The Old Assyrian did not disappear, not all of them were exterminated". The problem with this politically motivated racists who utterly brainwash you is that they in no way can prove the slightest link between you and the Assyrians of antiquity. This political motivated Western "scholars" remain silent about this reality in order to completely hypnotize you. And that works perfect. All this, they are doing for the sake of their satanic Masonic Christ. What is the prove for this hypnoses and brainwash? Well, you yourself are a vivid proof!
Actually the "Assyrian" terrorists are a kind of barometer of holiness and evilness.
The persons who you try to demonize, dishonour and terrorize by all means possible are: 1) honest people, 2) conscientious people, 3) people who hate the lie and love the truth and 4) most of these people lead a very pious life in the presence of the Lord God.
The persons who you glorify and honour into the sky are: 1) people who do not care about faithfulness, honesty and truth, 2) act at the edge of fraud and deceit, 3) have no conscience and ) often they are hateful and godless people, with a deep contempt towards the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (that is probably the reason many of you will embrace antichrist "the Assyrian".
To put this in a other context: Those who you utterly curse should be grateful to the Lord God; for they must be good people otherwise you would not curse them. However, those who you glorify, should be aware that they are facing most probably a terrible judgement and should ask themselves whether not to change their way of life.
You can be sure of one thing, namely: The more you curse and demonize the Aramnahrin organization, the more blessings the organization receives from the Lord God. Your unprecedented hatred and attacks have resulted in many analysis and articles on our website. In other words, your unimaginable wicked behavior is being turned into many good things.
Now, the choice is to you: Continue on this perverted path which shall at the end lead to your complete extermination or try to wrest yourself from this horrible "Assyrians" ideology of the criminal colonial Western powers and find a new life in Christ Jesus of the Bible who invites all of you and says, "Shameless nation, come to your senses 2 before you are driven away like chaff blown by the wind, before the burning anger of the LORD comes upon you, before the day when he shows his fury. (Zephanja 2:1-2)
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